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on Jan 28, 2010 at 6:55:10 am
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Electronic/ ambient music video, this is a surreal story following different animals finding a way to communicate to each other through a mysteriously animated tuning fork
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Re: Tunings
by Tim Parsons
Take it like a professional. Don't view every criticism of your work as an attack on your person.

As for the specific points you asked about, please, show me the point of the fork. If you showed me the point of the fork, a lot would be solved. But until there is a purpose, it would appear pointless and would serve no purpose to the video.

And if there is no unifying factor to the fork, then yes, the rest of the video would be a series of unrelated nature shots.

And if most of it is a series of unrelated nature shots, then it is not a story.

And if it does not have a story, then it does not go from A to B. That's kind of the definition of a story.

Like I said, the only part that had the element of story was the part where the dog freed the bird. But that event had no apparent link or relation to the rest of the video.

As for the sound of the fork being called music... there's a reason why it's called experimental. It's different and it doesn't follow the traditional time-honored elements and rules of music. it is truly experimental. Sometimes experiments failed. My subjective opinion, this one failed. It just began to fatigue the ears after a while. Who was the respected London musician?

And yes, I will admit that my comment of "it stunk to high heaven" wasn't polite. But in leu of the lack of essential elements of good video, my comment wasn't far off it's mark.
@Tim Parsons
by Ivano Darra
The music is Eno-esque (if you know of his existence) and incidentally the same track has been used for a documentary showing this Saturday at the BFI in London - so maybe is your taste that has failed. Anyway, enough with this
Re: Tunings
by Ivano Darra
"there's no "mystery" to the tuning fork, it's just pointlessly there": according to whom?

"a hodgepodge of various unrelated nature shots": quite a flattering remark

"which served no purpose to any other element of the video except to produce an annoying sound": it's called ambient music and the track is from a respected London musician

"All in all, if you had left the annoying and pointless fork out of it": again, according to whom? that's what made the video something more than just a series of nature shots

"as such, it stunk. It stunk to high heaven": is this polite speaking in your view? And how am I not going to take it personally? Fine if you don't like it, but it looks like you're oblivious of experimental music videos or you find contemptible if something doesn't doesn't have a story that clearly goes from A to B
Re: Tunings
by Tim Parsons
Look, Ivan, we are both professionals capable of expressing our subjective artistic views in mature, definite terms. No need to get personal or vulgar. OK?

That said, yes, your video did make pretense of being something other than it was. Your synopsis claimed a story-line and a premise. Neither of them appeared in the video.

OK, so let me give you the benefit of the doubt and say that those elements really were there and that I just didn't get it. I would still offer my constructive criticism and say that those elements were at best weak and needed to be emphasized more so that your video could appeal to a broader audience, not just the select few who "get it."

Again, I offer my comments as a professional videographer, not as a personal attack. So I would appreciate the same tone in return.
Re: Tunings
by Ivano Darra
Thanks for dumping all your negativity on my video, dude. Either you had a bad week at work or you're really a stinker.

The video has no pretenses to be linear, it has a vague storyline which you might get or not - and if you don't it's your bullshit. It has been shown at festivals and film nights - obviously not run by people of your sort.

No doubt you need to stick to MTV videos, where they play some music discernible to your ears and possibly with a couple of tits added in to keep you entertained.
Re: Tunings
by Tim Parsons
That synopsis is the biggest stretch I have ever seen. It's not a "music video," there's no "story," there's no element of the animals "trying to communicate," and there's no "mystery" to the tuning fork, it's just pointlessly there.

The thing was a hodgepodge of various unrelated nature shots inter-cut with shots of a tuning fork, which served no purpose to any other element of the video except to produce an annoying sound and rotate... which I'm still confused about. Not because it's "mysterious," but because it's just weird.

The dog freeing the bird at the end was the only thing that even resembled a story, and it was completely unrelated to the rest of the video, especially unrelated to the other animals which the fork supposedly affected.

All in all, if you had left the annoying and pointless fork out of it and just called it a short demo of nature shots, it would be fine. But the fact that you try to pass it off as a story that has no beginning, no middle, and no end... deserves every ounce of criticism that a real story-based video would have. And as such, it stunk. It stunk to high heaven.
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